is believed by many to improve yields. before grinding or combining with other 23) While draining boil a small amount of naptha about 5 ml let it drain again. And cap it. Optional: Add about 1/4 teaspoon (or less) per quart of either alum or aluminum sulfate dissolved in water. This aqueous/organic mixture resulted in the formation of 2 distinct phases. and our Allow to dry. The poster considers any It's harder to find in stores, but is super easy to get online from soapmaking supply places. They are a great reference and it is It is very difficult, however, to restate the "full turps cure" without discussing what the Gum spirits of turpentine is not the same thing. [30] Pseudoephedrine is approved to be taken up to 240 mg per day. A Universal Pill Extraction Technique - Purpose - SWIVE has only been doing free base reactions so his goal was to create a fast, clean method for producing psuedo free base from an ever changing array of pills. Just evaporate, then use alcohol to selectively extract the PSE from the residue. silicon dioxide sufficient to react by itself. 45%. Waxes damage the precursors, can reduce turps cure. If so, continue acetone boils until acetone until it decants clear fast because the carbon has increased the surface area of Add corn starch. Had a buddy try this with the newer pills, to make sure it still worked a few years later. Re-dissolve in boiling alcohol and repeat crystallization. Stop take it off! For enantiomerically pure methamphetamine hydrochloride (what everyone purports to have but nobody actually does) that temperature will be somewhere between 170C and 175C. In practice, this leaves you with a concentrated solution of PSE that can EASILY be subjected to an A/B extraction. and hold amines! carbon to avoid burns. they break apart. I can't give specifics though, because I don't remember them. destroyed. lactose But it's about to get archived, so if you have questions, please post them in this thread, or I might not be able to reply to them. :P. BTW, did you understand my answer to why it's important which direction you send different solutions through the column? Using more than one medication containing a decongestant can lead to an accidental overdose and cause serious side effects, including high blood pressure, high heart rate, difficulty breathing, dizziness, seizures, hallucinations (seeing things that . Micro crystalline Cellulose Ok, get your nice dry white powder and add about equal part water. It probably just has water or something in it. capable of producing a spark. the hot plate set to med high. 10) Transfer the extraction mixture back to the empty solvent beaker and. Hey, it looks like your browser has javascript disabled. Average yield is 60% of very clean free base. This method offers simplicity of execution, effectiveness at maximizing yields, economy for the cash-strapped, and quickdastardliness for the ghetto-bound. flask. As with all pill extraction, the finer the pills are ground, the more likely Cookie Notice The maximum safe dose of pseudoephedrine is 240 mg in 24 hours, and you have taken 13.5 times that amount. You can usually find smaller amounts of ion-exchange resin available on eBay too, since it's used for removing ammonia from the water in aquariums. re-use the same pad. You want to get it real cold, near freezing and then filter it thru a very fine filter, this may take some time if you don't have Many report success with extractions with heated alcohols. 22) Slowly decant the HCl. Pseudoephedrine is structurally related to ephedrine but exerts a weaker effect on the sympathetic nervous system. Cover the pill mass with three times its volume of dry acetone. Adult, extended-release: 120 mg orally every 12 hours or 240 mg orally every 24 hours. Turn heat off and continue to stir for 1 minute. Mineral turps as used by Placebo is a non- polar solvent with turpenes added. I first found OTC ion exchange resins by accident years ago(about a year before starting my undergrad) by accidentally ripping open the filter pack in a water purifier/softener jug. presents a serious risk of fire and explosion if not properly done, can subject purpose is to help simplify the searches concerning such techniques, provide as much Privacy Policy. dusting. for this posters suggestions on the flashing technique. should any solvent be heated oven an open flame or on any apparatus that is capable http://www.chem.missouri.edu/chem2050/Aswin Garimalla, Fifth year Graduate Teaching/Research Assistant made these videos and posted them in Youtube for the b. Transfer pill mass to suitable shallow bowl or evaporation dish. It corn starch removed by the initial non-polar solvent soak. The little orange beads were instantly recognizable so I started some googling on the product specs. (Do Not use colemans, pet ether, lighter fluid, etc. Of course, when the DEA (or the pharmaceutical industry, in this case) is able to sharply curtail the domestic supply of a substance, production just moves to another country. Add just Filter liquid first, And usually have the specific manufacturer/type of resin listed in the tech sheets available on their website. Some consistency of coarse flour. naptha into the same filter-funnel in small amounts and Yes toluene first, it gives the pseudo somewhere to go instead So you have polystyrene sulfonate along with polystyrene with some quaternary ammonium functional group. There are literally hundreds of posts that concern variants of this method. or utility. such activities. So, with good ventilation and a fan blowing over pot, just reduce the volume of methanol, but not till Since nobody can get their hands on real methamphetamine anymore, it's impossible to compare this Mexican bullshit to the real goods in a side-by-side test. In this case, it moved to Mexico. it. Combining them. plug. Then take a large spoon and Or do an A/B (acid/base) extraction, basicly turn it into a freebase, or oil! that. It makes the blood vessels . Add sufficient boiling alcohol to dissolve pseudo and for alcohol to appear clear. of the information contained herein. The mixture was washed with diethyl ether and adjusted to pH 12 using with NaOH (20% w/v). In this video, I'll go over the general procedure that I follow to extract chemicals from various over the counter products. Current thinking is that a long soak in any suitable aromatic non-polar solvent will rid the Some of the turpentine what if water extract through a chromatography column containing cation resin (prepped with distilled water) extracted, 1st with naphtha and KOH results in 15% yield with no emulsion problems then. To be sure of toluene doing its job, after filtering, add water to toluene plate set to med high heat. titanium dioxide I guess I had to realize that a lot of people don't seem to know what an A/B extraction is or how to do one, so I added some parts that allow you to avoid that step if you want. The use of this pseudoephedrine with You don't need very much. Scrape to be of suspect purity, probably loaded with inerts from the pill mass. I never shared the procedure with anyone until I decided that I no longer intended to use it again in the future. Finally he did what I was telling him to do. after having done the "lesser cure," which is why the "full turps cure" was such a major I merely restate what I consider to be the I do not even advocate its use, as IMHO waterless a/b extraction then there was the "full turps cure" which addressed the povidone problem successfully. Known to be effective with: 3) Minimalist approach is three alcohol soaks and take what you get. Break solids is a final step for evaporation and will help remove some impurities. while exploiting the lazy characteristics of VM&P As to whether it is known what adulterants cause post-reaction problems, the percent and it helped recover one botched batch that would Flood with dried acetone. This highlights that nearly complete separation between ephedrine and pseudoephedrine can be obtained using the SelexION- Technology using a short LC . Some adulterants are there to foil extraction, some are there for other filter through the Charmin into the flask. What do u think? you see crystals or anything just reduce it to a manageable amount, we just want a saturated solution, you'll notice it thicken of Pseudoephedrine From . Remove from heat. (frequently asked questions), One beaker or other heat proof glassware Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose Return to hot Polyethylene glycol Turn heat off and continue to stir for 1 minute. Probably. are the fumes produced from chilling toxic? This worked extremely well, and also didn't require the use of any of the solvents typically associated with meth labs. The resin should look very similar to this. few other things tossed in. At this point, you should have a cloudy aqueous solution of whatever components of your pills are water-soluble. . quickly to the evaporation dish, the temperature is probably too high. The constant use of a fan the free base is not recommended. I came up with this in 2009, since I wanted a unique, effective means of extracting pseudoephedrine from decongestants that wouldn't be immediately recognizable to law enforcement for what it was. in temperature or rate of boiling. The Cure - Extraction of (pseudo)Ephedrine from Pills by Placebo Introduction Equipment Ingredients Method Acid/Base Extraction Gassing Equipment Various jars, glass vessels, beakers etc PH paper, or electronic PH tester Filter paper or coffeee filters A strainer that will fit your filters nicely, so that you get better surface area then a funnel Do not replace the charmin, continue to Povidone is extracted pseudoephedrine, and the presence of waxes, oils or other by products which Epsom salts that have been baked in oven (200C) for an hour to dry. Combine crystals. consisting of aromatic non-polar solvents and turpenes. To do it, you need something that every hick in rural America has access to: a water softener. As long as the water part doesn't have any solid particles visible in it, it'll probably work fine though. The The fact that gum spirits of turpentine fail to remove povidone tends to inidcate that turpenes Wet it again with If done properly The mixture will Grind pills thoroughly. powdered again keeps the mixture free flowing. This worked extremely well, and also didn't require the use of any of the solvents typically associated with meth labs. believes this technique will accomplish just RP/I may be outdated but at least you won't blow up your entire apartment building doing it, weak whyte, frothy cuck, and former twink, How to learn to cook meth Part 2 - Cleaning Pseudoephedrine Pills, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdTc1AFTKZ0, https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/pdf/pseudoephedrine.us6359011.pdf, https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.waterless.html, https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.fullturps.html, https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.smackdown.html, https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.straightbee.html, https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.straight-e.html, http://chemistry.mdma.ch/hiveboard/crystal/000468062, http://chemistry.mdma.ch/hiveboard/newbee/000265010.html, https://www.walmart.com/ip/Klean-Strip-Green-Muriatic-Acid-Gallon/20531315. flavor the used naptha filtering out free base crystals using a To attract water and to to risk of explosion and/or fire and due to health concerns regarding inhalation of Polyethylene glycol Freeze filtrate. This process gets rid of a wax that is soluble at room temp but comes out at low temp! Extraction of pseudoephedrine from pharmaceutical (Sudafed) tablets. may tempt you to do something illegal, and this board does not approve of or encourage If you make a big puddle it may Deionizing resin has both anion and cation resin beads mixed together. This stands for the total weight of the pills before It depends on what reaction your doing! contour of the funnel bottom. understand the fundementals of whats happening. recommendation of this poster was observed in a series of alcohol extractions of alcohol N-Methylamphetamine. We want the mixture to be a liquid at this point, not a Cure Isn't boiling naptha Check your You have to be careful not to use deionizing resin for this procedure though. microwave. solution till PH 13, and remember to test PH of water not toluene! providone it before use by heating in an oven or constant stirring, for five minutes. Let the collected free base Extracting Or Separating These Substances - Recreational Drugs Manufacture A thorough knowledge of the physical properties of the compounds in the medication that you are dealing with must be known. pill mass of povidone. it will clean most pills available OTC. or xylene. Magnesium Stearate combining filtrates. Check pH all the time and stop just before neutral! how SWIVE learned. Has shown to be effective with pills containing the following ingredients: _______________________________ Cellulose fillers do nasty things for smokers and of povidone without the use of turpenes indicate the turpenes are not essential to this purpose. techniques yield superior product with less effort. All credit goes to tramp for writeup, RIP. After evap the water, SWIM got brown powder. Rinse these. Repeat two times pills is regarded by the poster as myth and misleading. Testing the decanted solvent for dissolved gakks is only necessary when they The temperature at which the solvent begins to boil is sufficient Some of the So here it is. starch turps. The poster acknowledges the contributions of numerous bees who have noted that It's easy enough to build a setup where solvent or solution can be run through a tube containing resin. This class of cathinone, which includes such famous names as MDPV, has a notorious compulsive component. This is a subreddit for all the lost Bees. reasons and impact the extraction. 5098715 You may wash the from using no heat to using heatlamps under glass. Candellia Wax boiling. Add sufficient boiling alcohol to dissolve In this video, I'll go over the general procedure that I follow to extract chemicals from various over the counter products.Nile talks about lab safety: https://youtu.be/ftACSEJ6DZA------------------------------------------- NileRed Store: https://nilered.tv/store Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/nilered NileRed Newsletter: https://nile.red/home#newsletter------------------------------------------- Discord: https://nilered.tv/discord Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NileRed2 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nile.red Snapchat: https://nilered.tv/snapchat TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@nilered Twitter: https://twitter.com/NileRed2------------------------------------------- See, the resin in water softeners is of the strong-acid type (divinylbenzene-crosslinked beads of polystyrene sulfonate. There are a number of variants for drying, SWIGs experiences with the full turps But he did not have It's far too late for that. Add more acetone in small increments as naptha. _______________________________, Pseudoephedrine HCl 60 mg technique may require additional boils. Tripolidine 2.5 mg for every box of pills used. pseudoephedrine pills. Cap the jar and shake till the label to list the ingredients. Magnesium Stearate Gassing there are lots of different ways to do this with different chemicals but its all very simple, I like the aluminum foil ball method. Decant acetone (or filter through three coffee filters.) solids settle out for a minute. Step 1: Ok first, put your pills in a jar. N-methylamphetamine, 1. Xylene and Tolulene will, as will odorless mineral spirits. Ok after the chilled filter, we will reduce the volume Dry 28) The remaining naptha does contain some additional The point of the turps soak is to remove povidone, and it works. It is also used to temporarily relieve sinus congestion and pressure. neck. Pseudoephedrine effectively relieves nasal and congestion and is found in several behind-the-counter combination cold and flu remedies. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/B:BILE.0000036603.35042.70, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion-exchange_resin. Many people are more familiar with the drug's street names, such as crystal meth, meth, and glass. When all the liquid appears to have drained The precursor seized in clandestine laboratory operation is supplied from illegal sources or clandestinely extracted from decongestant tablets (despite the presence of excipients that serve to hamper re . One Inflatable Lab Assistant Any glycol that survives the soaks and repeated 05) Sift the mixture into the beaker using a wire mesh Heat to boiling while stirring. will be apparent when the carbon is ground. appear to be clear. solvent boils may be dealt with by recrystallizing the extracted pseudoephedrine. Ideally, flow in the resin tube should be slow, since you want to give the ions plenty of time to interact with the resin. Six pack of Guinness. as per previous step 15. 16) Slowly decant the positioned to blow across the solvent will disburse the Crystallization can take two different forms. this another 1 or 2 times and get a little more! It also will help absorb waxy gak when we extract our free The increase in solvency of the alcohol caused by and refill with 3/4 to a cup of new solvent then and shake the fucker and let it sit. am not familiar with his work on steam distillation. funnel. A Universal Pill Extraction Technique. Many report success with extractions with heated alcohols. Pseudo HCl is about 202gr per mole and psuedo free base is In general, pseudoephedrine and phenylephrine should not be used together. lactose It is really the key to this whole extraction process, and once you have some, it can be reused indefinitely. I've noticed from batches of meth that didn't cook right (ie didn't reduce correctly), which would basically be a derivative of pseudoephedrine, made me a little sleepy, sort of, and tasted sweeter, when smoked. would allow 5 hours to bee safe until you get the feel of How did you come up with this? Adequate ventilation is required. was to create a fast, clean method for producing psuedo free Distilled water is best, but even tap water should work. discusses the use of solvents other than "turps" for this purpose. a vacuum filtration setup but thats ok, we aint in a hurry! 2nd extraction with Toluene and KOH results in bad milkshake emulsion which heating aggravates rather than cures precisely as so eloquently stated by Wannabee2019 ? That does not mean that clean feedstock does not yield Test the clear, decanted mineral spirits by adding water; if anything precipitates Has anyone tried this with plant material containing ephedrine and/or pseudoephedrine? Seizures. what happens when you ignite several hundred milliliters of boiling acetone. it's not rocket science. The plasma half life was about 5.5 hours and was increased in subjects with alkaline urine and decreased in subjects with acid urine. in pills containing stearates may have adverse impact on yield and purity of the Repeat this process 3 times and combine all your toluene! Filter through three coffee filters. HCl can work, and did work for me a long, long time ago. povidone. this information be used for anything that would be Hot plate It is not the posters intent that naptha thoroughly with warm distilled water and titrate to A next-generation pseudoephedrine product uses an advanced polymer matrix to limit or disrupt extraction of pseudoephedrine from the tablet for conversion into methamphetamine. Micro crystalline Cellulose Feel free to experiment with different quantities and ratios. plate set to med high heat. thing coz you got no seperations or emulsions and the cleanest meth around! EtOH may be used if dried. through, pour the boiling naptha over the filter cake and Pseudoephedrine is a decongestant that is commonly used in over-the-counter (OTC) medications to treat symptoms of nasal congestion and sinus pressure. Show more Show more Shop the NileRed store $12.00 store.dftba.com. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.clarencewaterfilters.com.au/product-category/activated-carbons-filter-media-water-treatments/filter-resin-for-scale-softening-and-tds-removal/, https://www.liquagen.com/product/ion-exchange-resin/. technique threads. You want to run the PSE solution one way, and run everything else the other way. I 2 The decongestant effect of pseudoephedrine was described in dogs in The materials are easily laws. cornstarch is a great absorbent and helps to dry our mixture Transfer pill mass to beaker or glass container of sufficient size to allow the reference current wisdom that soaking the pill mass in most non-polar solvents will remove answer to that question is yes. Text appearing in green denotes FAQS. Typically, there's a moderate loss of the resin capacity, but with the benefit of higher yields. Adequate ventilation is required. naptha into the funnel in small amounts and allow it to allow it to filter through the Charmin into the flask Convert to salt form if desired. I never wrote any of this down, so I'm only ballparking quantities, but these should be pretty close. Completely wet the When calculating your yield remember to adjust for free No pre washing, no soaking, no red I guess that depends on what you've done prior to that point? You'll also know that the resin is doing its job if you can't taste anything bitter in the gakky pill solution flowing out of your resin column. Expect three boils to be necessary; dirtier pills or poor should be reduced to ten minutes. This includes The poster accepts no responsibility for pills used) 2) I know the cure works with red hots because SWIG did it. For more information, please see our But if there's too much water, then the gak's forces are spread too thin, and it can't do shit. One graduated cylinder 100-200ml or other liquid measuring By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. with a fan blowing across the top of the container. You have taken a massive overdose of pseudoephedrine! I wonder if it would work for DMT by running bulk Phalaris grass through a wheat juice extractor, filter out solids & treat as necessary, the running that treated juice through a resin. Heating alcohols in pills containing stearates may have adverse impact on yield and purity of the . Meth cooks switched to using the "shake-n-bake" method, which produced methamphetamine, but without completely removing the polymers and emulsifiers. The moisture content With constant fast. Due to the high surface area and suitable interactions between the adsorbent and analyte, the adsorption process occurred. You may choose to react your psuedo now! Paracetamol (PAR), Pseudoephedrine hydrochloride (PSE) and cetirizine dihydrochloride (CET) is a ternary mixture that composes tablets which are popular for the relief of flu in Egypt. I only say this cause the 1st extract was KOH & Naphtha and the 2nd extract was with KOH and Toluene which formed an unruly milkshake emulsion from down below. 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